Doing My Part To Stimulate The Economy

[Lucky_Devil]

I bought some new gear... and I broke several of my personal gear buying rules in doing so.

Things I have sworn to myself that I would never do, that I just did :rolleyes:

1) Never buy mens gear... it'll never fit right
2) No more textile gear... EVER
3) Never buy all new gear before a big trip

My rationalizations for breaking the above personal tenets:

1) I had a list of requirements that needed to be filled if I was going to break rule number two, and no manufacturer had any womens gear that met all of my requirements :mad:

2) I have an extreme dislike of textile gear... mostly because A) it's not as protective as leather and B) it doesn't breathe worth a damn... it's like wrapping yourself in a plastic garbage bag - instant sweat factory. One of the requirements for textile gear was that it NOT be waterproof, I think the waterproofing of the textile is what makes it not breathe well, and thus miserable to wear. But leather is far from 4-season capable as far as gear goes, so I knew textile gear would be needed for my big trip, since I'll be riding in all kinds of temps and weather conditions.

3) This is a HUGE no-no... but I took so long in trying to find exactly what I wanted that I wont have much of an opportunity to test out the gear before I leave. :gaah: Oh well, nothing like a trial by fire I suppose :shrug:



So... it should all arrive next week... stay tuned for pics and reviews.

Rev-It Cayenne Pro Jacket:

http://rev-it.eu/usrimage/cat5854290.jpg

Rev-It Cayenne Pro Pants:

http://www.revzilla.com/product_images/0014/8658/REV_IT_Cayenne_Pro_Pants_Light_Grey_zoom.jpg

Todays lesson: Never say never :redface1:

[Abosit]

Uh, la, la

I like that! you will be very visible!!! great. I like the pants too.
I have worn mens wear and think if you still feel like you are a women and have she small
feminine touch you are going to be just wonderfully feminine!

I personally sometime riding alone, I prefere to have neutral gear, so when I do not want to recognized as a women, just keep my helmet on and I am in my cocoon! It is a curious feeling.

[KCDakar]

Congrats on the gear! You will grow into it in no time, or it will grow on you or whatever, by the end you will like it I am sure. If not send it to me and I will love it myself. :devilsmile:

[sweptwingnut]

I have been very pleased with my Cayenne. It served me well for our 5 week / 10000+ mile tour in 2007.

[Astir]

Very nice! I like the orange!

[ridingAK]

Nice choices.

[indianscout]

Interesting views LD. I agree with you on #2 and #3 and can see your point on #1 (it would be like me with womens clothing.............don't go there Dakar!).

#2 I grew up with leathers and am partial to them, but after seeing Dakars new jacket last summer, would like to try one out for a spell. I can tell you alot about leather but very little about textile. The few bike shops we have around here don't carry anything other than leather so I don't see much of the textile. Interested in hearing your opinion after you have had it awile.

#3 How can you argue with logic like that?? Even after having new equipment for awile, one can still find out new things about it. On the road is not a time to find problems. At least at home you can address it!


:riding:

[KCDakar]

Do I HAVE to keep my mouth shut? That is just not fair sayin that and then not letting me have a crack at it...:mgbanghead:

:devilsmile:

[indianscout]

Do I HAVE to keep my mouth shut? That is just not fair sayin that and then not letting me have a crack at it...:mgbanghead:

:devilsmile:


You could but then you would have to ban yourself! :devillaugh:



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[Luna Tique]

:pompom: That looks like a great set up LD. I do hope it works out for you Can't wait to see it (off course by the time you get here it will be decorated with lots of insect wings ):lol:

[waterlilly]

I bought some new gear... and I broke several of my personal gear buying rules in doing so.

Things I have sworn to myself that I would never do, that I just did :rolleyes:

1) Never buy mens gear... it'll never fit right
2) No more textile gear... EVER
3) Never buy all new gear before a big trip

My rationalizations for breaking the above personal tenets:

1) I had a list of requirements that needed to be filled if I was going to break rule number two, and no manufacturer had any womens gear that met all of my requirements :mad:

2) I have an extreme dislike of textile gear... mostly because A) it's not as protective as leather and B) it doesn't breathe worth a damn... it's like wrapping yourself in a plastic garbage bag - instant sweat factory. One of the requirements for textile gear was that it NOT be waterproof, I think the waterproofing of the textile is what makes it not breathe well, and thus miserable to wear. But leather is far from 4-season capable as far as gear goes, so I knew textile gear would be needed for my big trip, since I'll be riding in all kinds of temps and weather conditions.

3) This is a HUGE no-no... but I took so long in trying to find exactly what I wanted that I wont have much of an opportunity to test out the gear before I leave. :gaah: Oh well, nothing like a trial by fire I suppose :shrug:



So... it should all arrive next week... stay tuned for pics and reviews.

Rev-It Cayenne Pro Jacket:

http://rev-it.eu/usrimage/cat5854290.jpg

Rev-It Cayenne Pro Pants:

http://www.revzilla.com/product_images/0014/8658/REV_IT_Cayenne_Pro_Pants_Light_Grey_zoom.jpg

Todays lesson: Never say never :redface1:

VeryNice choice, look at it this way it will last you 10+yrs so it will average $100.00
bucks a year,not bad I say.

[Lucky_Devil]

Congrats on the gear! You will grow into it in no time, or it will grow on you or whatever, by the end you will like it I am sure. If not send it to me and I will love it myself. :devilsmile:

Thanks! I'm really hoping I like it because it took forever to find what I wanted and then I had to part with the cash http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/452781367_ca7385b881_o.gif But good gear is ALWAYS cheaper than medical bills.


I have been very pleased with my Cayenne. It served me well for our 5 week / 10000+ mile tour in 2007.

It's firsthand recommendations like this that steered me towards this brand/model.


Interesting views LD. I agree with you on #2 and #3 and can see your point on #1 (it would be like me with womens clothing.............don't go there Dakar!).

Ummmm.... I think we need to hear more about this "problem" you have finding womens clothes that fit properly :popcorn1:

Dakar... I'm willing to risk you getting banned so we can hear the story :devillaugh:


That looks like a great set up LD. I do hope it works out for you Can't wait to see it (off course by the time you get here it will be decorated with lots of insect wings )

As long as the dead bugs are on my jacket and not in my teeth, I'm all good :D:


VeryNice choice, look at it this way it will last you 10+yrs so it will average $100.00 bucks a year,not bad I say.

Well when you put it that way, it almost makes me sound smart! http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/smilies/i.gif

[indianscout]

Ummmm.... I think we need to hear more about this "problem" you have finding womens clothes that fit properly.




Sorry LD, that won't happen.........................again. :redface1:






:lol:

[Inky]

The pants look like Storm Trooper pants! Me likey. Can't wait to hear how you like them.

[Pinkster]

Uh, la, la

I like that! you will be very visible!!! great. I like the pants too.
I have worn mens wear and think if you still feel like you are a women and have she small
feminine touch you are going to be just wonderfully feminine!

I personally sometime riding alone, I prefere to have neutral gear, so when I do not want to recognized as a women, just keep my helmet on and I am in my cocoon! It is a curious feeling.


haha i dont think i could ever cocoon with my bike n gear! lol

[Lucky_Devil]

Well the gear showed up today, and I must admit that I'm very impressed with it. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow... but I wont be able to give a "ride review" for a few days.

[Pinkster]

Well the gear showed up today, and I must admit that I'm very impressed with it. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow... but I wont be able to give a "ride review" for a few days.


woo hoo cant wait to hear the review!! :)

[KCDakar]

Well the gear showed up today, and I must admit that I'm very impressed with it. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow... but I wont be able to give a "ride review" for a few days.

:campfire:

[Luna Tique]

:campfire:

Can I join you while you wait KCD?

:camping: Good thing you started a fire it is snowing here.......AGAIN :shrug:

[ridingAK]

I'll wait with you, :popcorn1: but do you mind if I move away from the fire a bit? It was 72 on Tuesday, and 65 yesterday!!! :wootrock:

[waterlilly]

I'll wait with you, :popcorn1: but do you mind if I move away from the fire a bit? It was 72 on Tuesday, and 65 yesterday!!! :wootrock:

That is wonderful we had snow again and it has been chilly I shall sit near the

campfire and wait for the review!:coffee:

[Lucky_Devil]

Here are a few pics and first impressions.

The pants are more grey than white. Based on the pictures on the website, I thought the pants were white, so I didn't think the jacket and pants were going to match, but they do... so this was a pleasant surprise.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956180_n6VL6-XL.jpg http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956217_HhxAk-XL.jpg


The pants fit perfectly with all of the liners in, but felt loosy-goosy without them. I called the store I purchased them from and after we spoke I'm confident that I have the correct size... if I went with a size smaller, the pants would be too tight with the liners in. I think I'm just used to the skin tight feel of my leathers, so anything else just feels too roomy to me.

The pants have zippered vents on the legs, which I'm sure will feel nice when I hit the warmer states.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956310_qTNXV-XL.jpg

They also have the strip of reflective stuff on the outer thigh, but that's it for the entire pant. I wish there was another strip on the lower leg (like on Aerostich pants).

The jacket zips to the pants almost all the way around, or there's a small zipper mid-back if you just want to zip it in the rear so the back doesn't ride up. Using the 360 degree zipper was a bit tricky with the cloth panel they have covering the zipper (I'm sure there's some super clever reason for the fabric covering the zipper, like to prevent rain from draining off the jacket and into the pants or something). I'm sure I'll get the hang of it.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956277_vsh5a-XL.jpg

You can also kind-of see in that photo the super plush fabric on the interior of the pants along the back... niiiiiiiice. And what you also see peeking out there is POCKETS :wootrock: YES!!!, my Vanson leathers have NO pockets (I understand that having keys and crap in your pockets while riding is ill advised, but when you're traveling it sure is nice to have some pockets for ear plugs and stuff)

Both the pants and jacket came with two liners, one for warmth, and one for waterproofing. The nice touch with the liners is that the zippers for all of them are stepped/staggered so bulk is reduced by not having two zippers stacked on top of each other. It also makes it easier to zip and unzip them since the other zipper is out of the way. The zippers are also color coordinated so you know your zipping the liner to the appropriate zipper.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956261_PZG5d-XL.jpg

The liners work independently or together... so I can wear the pants with no liner, or with just the waterproof liner, or just the insulating layer, or both.

The material on the knees is super grippy. I have no idea what it's made of, but it grips like nobody's business. Grips the tank just as well as my leathers.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956293_gjsuB-XL.jpg

The jacket is not as obnoxious a color as it appears in these photos... not that I mind obnoxious... but it's just not as bright as the photos indicate. The original manufacturers photo I posted earlier more closely represents the true color.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956236_bNXv4-XL.jpg http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956245_g6bjv-XL.jpg


The jacket fits perfectly everywhere except the arms... which I expected since it's a mens jacket and I have scrawny girly arms :shrug: But again, the jacket fits great with the liners in, and felt too loose to me with them out. I was told I just need to get used to how textile gear fits as opposed to the skin tight leathers I'm used to.
The first thing I noticed was all of the POCKETS :ecstasy:I think I counted 15 pockets on this bad boy. I now have more pockets than things to put in them!

There are reflective panels on the forearm, front chest, and a large strip across the back.

The jacket has lots of venting (compared to my leathers) with the flip up panels on the chest, the mesh pockets behind the front chest pockets, zippers on the forearms, and zippers on the back.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956337_ZqQ9W-XL.jpg


The adjustable neck snap is a nice touch, and the fabric edging on the collar is soooo soft

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956324_rLkHk-XL.jpg


The liners for the jacket work the same way as with the pants.... stepped zippers so no bulk and color coded.

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956362_YdWQw-XL.jpg

The jacket also has a hole in the upper left shoulder area for a water bladder tube. I don't wear a camelbak while riding, so I plan on running my headphone wires through the hole so I can run the cord through the interior of the jacket :cool:

Now... for the bad :(:

While taking these pictures I heard something fall from the jacket, and it was half of a snap :gaah: after searching the jacket over I found the other half of the snap, as well as a hole where the snap used to reside :eek:

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/508956400_nvmTw-XL.jpg

I was NOT amused. So I guess this is where I learn about the quality of Rev-It's customer support. UPDATE: Rev'it! promptly sent me a new liner.

Other than the snap debacle, my only complaints are:
It comes stock with a completely worthless back protector. I upgraded to a nicer model, but when shelling out almost $600 for a non-leather jacket... well, I think it should come with a kick-ass back protector in it from the get-go.
Vague washing instructions... that also tell you to only wash it with Rev-It gear cleaner :rolleyes: riiiiight... like I'm going to carry around a special bottle of Rev-It gear wash. I couldn't find any washing instructions for the liners.
Both the jacket and pants came with a giant book/packet full of information (you can kind of see it in the first photos), unfortunately none of the information was useful. It was all marketing mumbo jumbo and nothing about all of the features of the jacket/pants. I played with the jacket and pants for about an hour and found all kinds of pockets and stuff... it would have been nice if they just outlined all the nifty stuff in the reading material.Alright, that's all I can think of for now... I'll keep everyone posted about how Rev-It customer service deals with my faulty snap.

UPDATE: Rev'it is sending me a new liner on Monday :wootrock: and I get to keep the faulty one as a spare :thumbup:

[waterlilly]

LD call the 1800 number ask for Arron she is pretty cool I would demand new pants not a replacement, just my .02.

[Lucky_Devil]

I'm giving the vendor 1 day to come back to me with something... then I'll "move up the ladder" if I need to.

I'm trying to remain calm, as getting pissy really doesn't get you anywhere.

For all I know they could be sending me a brand new liner... keep your fingers crossed because I have to leave in a few weeks... so I don't have time for dealing with issues like this right now.

I paid top dollar in an attempt to avoid this kind of crap :gaah:

[Luna Tique]

I'll wait with you, :popcorn1: but do you mind if I move away from the fire a bit? It was 72 on Tuesday, and 65 yesterday!!! :wootrock:

:yahoo: Warm weather
We are suppposed reach the 50's today :wootrock:

Sorry about the "snap" issue LD :(: I have my fingers crossed they will do the RIGHT thing :thumbup:

All in all it looks like you have a great set up :thumbup:

[Maleficent]

I love the pants. Do they come in XX short? I love well thought out gear that's comfy. :thumbup: As far as the leather vs. textile fit, there is definitely a difference. Unforgiven went through that debate when he bought the yellow Honda jacket. It does fit much differently. But after wearing it on our recent trip, he's come to like it.

[Lucky_Devil]

Just to update everyone, Rev'it is sending me a new liner on Monday :wootrock: I get to keep the faulty one as a spare :thumbup:

[waterlilly]

I am very happy to hear this!!!

:thumbsup:


now I will paitenly wait for the test ride report:whistling:

[ridingAK]

That is awesome news LD, and it confirms my opinion of Rev'it as a high quality company that stands behind its products.

[Luna Tique]

I am very happy to hear this!!!

:thumbsup:


now I will paitenly wait for the test ride report:whistling:

Me too :thumbsup:

[KCDakar]

That is awesome news LD, and it confirms my opinion of Rev'it as a high quality company that stands behind its products.

:iagree:

[waterlilly]

I love the pants. Do they come in XX short? I love well thought out gear that's comfy. :thumbup: As far as the leather vs. textile fit, there is definitely a difference. Unforgiven went through that debate when he bought the yellow Honda jacket. It does fit much differently. But after wearing it on our recent trip, he's come to like it.

In answer to your question YES they do,the unique part is they come in tall too,:rofl:

A product made for the short/Reg/tall YAHOO!!!

Just to point out REVIT fits small so if you order measure exact or go try on!

:thumbsup:

[bunny]

Lucky_Devil, I love the colours! Reminds me of a creamsicle!!!! Hmmmm.... ice-cream.:drool:

They look good and functional and good customer support all give it a thumbs up rating. :thumbsup:

[Lucky_Devil]

I went for a test ride in my new gear and I'm officially impressed. I wore the suit with both the liner and insulating layer on a ride where the temperature would go from 60's to the 80's.

I purposely left the liners in so that I could see at what point I started to sweat profusely in the gear. To be honest, I thought I would start sweating immediately regardless of temp because that's what all of my previous textile gear was like. But, to my surprise, I didn't start sweating in all the layers until the temp reached about 80 degrees. Around 85 I was pretty miserable in all of it... but I didn't have any of the vents open either. I was trying to see how hot I could go before I would need to pull the liners out... and I think 80 degrees is that point for me.

Since you pretty much need to completely disrobe to take the liners out (the pants are riding pants and not over-pants, so if you want to take the liners out, you need to find some privacy), I was hoping there would be a wide temperature range for leaving them in.

I'm used to wearing my gloves over the sleeves of my riding jacket, but I was finding it to be a bit of a challenge to get the sleeves of this jacket to fit in/under the gauntlet part of my gloves.

The jacket feels pretty roomy without the liners in it, so I think my next test will be riding with the liners out and all of the vents open... I hope it doesn't balloon too much.

[Astir]

:thumbsup:

[KansasKawboy]

:thumbsup:


:agreed:

[Luna Tique]

Happy to hear the testing is going well :wootrock:

[KCDakar]

:popcorn1:

[indianscout]

:popcorn1:



Hey!! Your hogg'n all the butter!!:cheers:




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[KCDakar]

Have an extra beer? :ears:

[Lucky_Devil]

:popcorn1:

Now why are you grabbin' popcorn and waiting for an update on this when you know darn well my bike is incapacitated at the moment :gaah:

Are you just rubbing it in? :grump:

[KCDakar]

Now why are you grabbin' popcorn and waiting for an update on this when you know darn well my bike is incapacitated at the moment :gaah:

Are you just rubbing it in? :grump:

I just wanted a beer...:shrug:


Here I'll do it for you...:smack:

:hug2:

[Lucky_Devil]

I just wanted a beer...:shrug:

Sorry... I'm just grumpy and bitter... found out today that a replacement caliper would have to be ordered from Japan :eek: ETA >2 weeks :gaah:

[Luna Tique]

:cry1:Oh no That sinks LD Kind of changes things but this gives you more time to not plan your adventure :riding:

and besides fate has a way of stepping in Maybe you are not meant to be on the road May 1st.
Be happy :w2:It will come together

Here KCD I always have an extra beer :cheers:
Anyone going to start a fire ?
Looks like it will be a little while until the next update :D:

[KCDakar]

Sorry... I'm just grumpy and bitter... found out today that a replacement caliper would have to be ordered from Japan :eek: ETA >2 weeks :gaah:

Give me the part# I'll ask around here...

[indianscout]

I get one going for you LT. :camping:



Guess I'll have to make a beer run too, looks like we could be here awile. :(: Sorry to here about your bike troubles LD. Guess if you had to find a silver lining in it, I would say at least this didn't happen wile you where on the road. :shrug: Things happen for a reason and sometimes we don't know why. Just go with the flow and soon things will be all right again. :meditation:





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[waterlilly]

Give me the part# I'll ask around here...

me to LD if I can find something I can send it viva courier out over night, now that I know the courier can get to you over night!

Don't let this get you down, this is just part of the adventure.

:thumbup:

[Astir]

:hug2:
Oh serious bummer, but so glad you are taking care if it now so it didn't happen on the road somewhere you didn't want to be.

[Lucky_Devil]

So less than 1 week into my trip, this happened

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/545080914_eoRbH-M.jpg

Soooo... I emailed Rev-it and we'll see what they have to say :grump:

[sweptwingnut]

Is that the collar? What is that loop used for?

[Lucky_Devil]

The loop attaches to a hook further back on the collar to hold the collar flap part back out of the way if you're riding with the collar open.

[Luna Tique]

Sorry to hear about the gear failure:shrug: I will be waiting to hear what they have to say and how quickly they repond :popcorn1:

:ears:

[KCDakar]

:chin:Hmmm, my jacket has a velcro piece that I close the collar with and one more on the other side that I can fold it back on. The part that is inside is the soft part of the velcro so it does not rub on my neck.

I am sorry to hear that you are having trouble.

But I bet you are having fun...:devilsmile:

[Lucky_Devil]

Still no response from Rev-It, and I emailed them last Friday :mad:

Guess I'll be emailing them again :grump:

I am sorry to hear that you are having trouble.

But I bet you are having fun...:devilsmile:

Yeah... I can't say that this failure has hindered the fun factor of my trip in the least :D:

[Luna Tique]

I can't say that this failure has hindered the fun factor of my trip in the least :D:


That is good to hear :thumbup:

[Lucky_Devil]

Just to update this thread, this is the resolution I received from Rev-it about the collar loop thingie, after a couple emails back and forth:

I have a supply of new for 2009 collar loops that are much hardier. We can do one of a couple things: I can send you the replacement loop and you can have it installed (very simple seamstress job) - we will reimburse you for the cost. We can have it sent to Rainy Pass Repair in Seattle - they know what to do and will bill us for the repair. We can also have it sent back here to our office for repair. What do you think would be easiest for you?

Sorry for the delay and inconvenience....and then I found this, two weeks into my trip, and only the third time I've worn the jacket with the liners in

http://luckydevil.smugmug.com/photos/553829319_4UeEY-M.jpg

The loop that holds the sleeve of the liners has come loose :gaah:

Also, the orange color has already sun-faded on the back of the jacket. To be expected I guess, since I'm wearing it all day - every day...but I thought it would stay orange longer than it did :shrug:

...yet another email sent to Rev-it.