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Lucky_Devil
12-03-2009, 12:27 PM
It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion...


Purses Lowered For AMA Road Racing
And Daytona SportBike takes priority

In its first year of operation, the Daytona Motorsports Group-run AMA Pro Road Racing made it clear they'd let the fans decide which was the premier class. In 2010, they've made up their minds.


The purse for the American Superbike class has been slashed from $73,500 - at all the races except Daytona, which paid $110,000 - to just $6500 for 2010. Meanwhile, the Daytona SportBike class has also been cut by more than half, from $73,500 to $30,500, but continues to pay to 20th place. The purse breakdown for Superbike is $3500 for first, down from $7500; $2000 for second, down from $4000; and $1000 for third, formerly $4000. The SportBike winner will earn $2500 less, $5000 compared to $7500, second will get $3000; it was $4000 in 2009, and third earns half of the $4000 it earned this year. Fourth through 10th earns $1500 and 11th through 20th pockets $1000.


As one privateer team owner said of the $1500 purse, "That doesn't even cover half the tire bill. It's going to knock out the privateers."


The size of the purse will be a disincentive for riders considering the American Superbike class, which will certainly have a much smaller grid.
As of this writing, there are three confirmed Superbike riders; Yoshimura Suzuki's Blake Young and Tommy Hayden, and Yamaha's Josh Hayes. Michael Jordan Motorsports is expected to have two riders, though nothing has been formalized. The Jordan team has been in talks with a number of manufacturers, but is likely to stay with Suzuki. Expect M4 Suzuki to have two riders.


BMW hasn't been able to secure funding to run a team and isn't expected to have a definitive decision on its racing plans until early December. Aprilia would like to showcase its RSV4 in the American Superbike class, though, they, too, can't do it without outside sponsorship. No decision has been made on Ducati's involvement in Larry Pegram's racing program. Yamaha would like to place Ben Bostrom on the Pat Clark Motorsports team, which ran Steve Rapp this year. Kawasaki, as of this writing, hasn't committed any resources to road racing. American Honda previously stated they wouldn't be involved in AMA Pro Road Racing, which meant that Erion Honda was left without funding.


The lack of riders and uncertainty has left a number of riders looking for work. Among them are Roger Lee Hayden, Jamie Hacking, Jake Zemke, the aforementioned Ben Bostrom, Aaron Yates, Geoff May, Jake Holden, and Taylor Knapp. Knapp may ride an XR1200 for Latus Harley-Davidson, if that spec class becomes a reality.


The changes to the purse were made public in the entry forms for the 2010 AMA Pro Road Racing series, which also addressed changes in the race-weekend format. The series would continue to have three primary sprint classes - American Superbike, Daytona SportBike, and SuperSport - which will add a second race at most events. The Moto-GT class has been eliminated and the 450cc Single class won't be included, due to a lack of interest. The form does leave open the possibility of more classes, though none are named. The most likely is the Harley-Davidson XR1200 class, which may be a hard sell, given the perilous state of a number of Harley dealerships.


Also changed will be the make-up of the race weekends. In a bid to reduce costs, teams will move in on Friday morning and have one session - all sessions with be timed qualifying sessions: in the afternoon and another on Saturday morning. Superpole has been eliminated. Each of the three classes will have a race on Saturday and another on Sunday. Superbike and SportBike races will run approximately 50 miles, with SuperSport races about 35 miles in length. At most locations, the Sunday schedule will be very similar to Saturday.


The Friday move-in also eliminates Thursday promoter practice, which has been a point of contention for a number of years. The move may not be very popular with track promoters, who made money renting the track on Thursday.


The SuperSport class, which also has a reduced purse, will be split into two categories: Top Guns and Young Guns. Top Guns is for riders with current Expert Licenses from "recognized road-racing organizations" who may post enter on the first morning of the race weekend. Top Gun points count toward purses, but not toward points standings or a championship. All Top Gun riders will be invited to take part in a Top Gun Shootout at the final race of the year. The winner of that race will be declared the AMA Pro Top Gun SuperSport National Champion. Top Gun riders aren't eligible to race in American Superbike or Daytona SportBike.


The Young Guns class, whose riders must pre-enter, looks similar to the 2009 rules, with 16- to 21-year-old riders needing a 2010 AMA Pro membership and a 2010 National Junior License. Again there will be East and West Regional Championships with a combined shootout in the final race of the year. Young Guns will also be banned from the senior sprint classes.


The entry form states that "The equipment rules for the two categories differ only in the required use of eligible equipment by the Young Guns riders," though it doesn't elaborate. The technical rules for the 2010 championship have yet to be released, but are expected to be similar to the 2009 rules.




Original article (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/12/01/purses-lowered-for-ama-road-racing)

Luna Tique
12-04-2009, 07:36 AM
:cry1: very sad indeed

KansasKawboy
12-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Is it the economy or are they thrying to kill it?

Unforgiven
12-04-2009, 11:03 PM
I said it from day 1, DMG IS A BUNCH OF ASSHAT IDIOTS. There is not a single decision in that article that makes any sense. At first I was a bit upset that Honda pulled out but after this, I have to give Honda a huge "at a boy" for telling DMG to shove their racing league up their arse. I just feel bad for all the riders who have poured their lives into the sport to get treated like this. Burn in hell DMG!

KCDakar
12-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Unfogiven, I had to laugh at your post as I was wondering what your position was going to be...

But you left me NO doubt! :lol:

Luna Tique
12-05-2009, 05:44 AM
Unfogiven, I had to laugh at your post as I was wondering what your position was going to be...

But you left me NO doubt! :lol:

I believe there is a bit of passion for this topic in his voice :lol:

Unforgiven
12-05-2009, 12:30 PM
Unfogiven, I had to laugh at your post as I was wondering what your position was going to be...

But you left me NO doubt! :lol:


Well I knew I would have to paint you a picture. :D:

Inky
12-05-2009, 01:33 PM
I most certainly agree with Unforgiven. And I think it's been well documented that if you want to ruin something quickly, hire DMG as your promoter!

Luna Tique
12-05-2009, 04:41 PM
I most certainly agree with Unforgiven. And I think it's been well documented that if you want to ruin something quickly, hire DMG as your promoter!
Amen to that

msyzf2u
12-05-2009, 06:44 PM
wonder if now that there is no money in it... if the grassroots club racers will fill its ranks....

Lucky_Devil
12-05-2009, 07:03 PM
Is it the economy or are they thrying to kill it?

Some people are of the opinion that perhaps they are in fact trying to kill it...



DMG Superbike Death Watch?
by dean adams
Wednesday, December 02, 2009

If you're of the opinion that Superbike racing in America is dying under the management of the Daytona Motorsport Group, last weekend's release of the 2010 purse information for the Superbike class probably did little to convince you that the class is not strapped to a bed with a pillow over its face

Purse payouts for the Superbike class are dramatically reduced for 2010. According to DMG documents, in the Superbike class The riders earning the three (3) highest point totals on an event weekend will be paid podium bonuses as follows: 1st - $3,500.00, 2nd - $2,000.00, and 3rd - $1,000.00.

Astoundingly, DMG documents suggest that there will be no purse paid for riders or teams finishing past third place in Superbike points on each race weekend.
Daytona Sport Bike, mind you, will also have a reduced purse but still pays a purse to twentieth place. DMG document: The riders earning the twenty (20) highest point totals on an event weekend will be paid purse awards as follows: 1st - $5,000.00, 2nd - $3,000.00, 3rd - $2,000.00, 4th through 10th - $1,500.00 each, and 11th through 20th $1,000.00 each.

Amazingly, finishing third in Superbike points on any given DMG weekend pays as well as twentieth place in DMG's namesake class, Daytona Sport Bike.

At the risk of being obvious, in the past, a Superbike purse paying well down the finishing order was a way for a privateer or support team to help defray expenses, to pay their tire, fuel or hotel bills for the race weekend.


How exactly will smaller teams be able to race the Superbike class? Some of them say that they won't.


DMG came into this fray in a swashbuckling manner. Roger Edmondson said in the March 2008 press conference announcing that DMG was buying AMA Pro Racing "I know this sounds cocky, but forgive me - we know it will be successful. Once the France family decides to move forward on a project, it does not fail." (Link to full transcript (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Mar/080308a.htm))

Their December 2008 press release stated that for the two premier classes (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Dec/081211ut.htm), Superbike and Daytona Sport Bike, Each of the premier divisions will offer $125,000 purses at each event with $15,000 going to the top points winner in each class. Second through 20th place finishing positions will earn $5,000 while the remaining finishers through 25th position will be paid $3,000.

Given the resources of the Daytona International Speedway organization and the France family, sponsorship to support those numbers was at that time almost an after-thought.


Simply put, DMG could not deliver on their grandiose purse statements and had to issue a humbling press release before the 2009 Daytona event spelling out that previously released purse amounts were no longer possible (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Feb/090213d200purse.htm).

Sadly, the reality is that Superbike purse payments in 2010 will be at their lowest point in modern AMA Superbike racing history. Not only are they lower than purses offered a just a few years ago, they are less than levels the series paid (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/0904b.htm) out in 1997.

Also a reality is that these relatively minuscule purse levels, the Superbike grid is in real danger of ending at the second row. Making its eventual demise easier to justify?
Link to original article (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Dec/091202purseinfo.htm)

Luna Tique
12-06-2009, 06:01 AM
Referring back to my ride report titled Summer of 77 (http://www.twowheelfemales.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1160&highlight=1977)
The Purse amounts paid in 1977

http://lunatique.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/70s/Purse20amounts/733038459_kM5SA-O.jpg (http://lunatique.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/70s/7347214_25jJz#733038459_kM5SA)

Inky
12-08-2009, 02:11 PM
*sigh*

Lucky_Devil
12-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. announced the company will not participate in the AMA Pro Racing road racing series in 2010.

"While we've always considered road racing an integral part of our sportbike development process, the realities of the current economic situation dictate the temporary suspension of our U.S. road racing activities," said Bruce Stjernstrom, marketing director.

Kawasaki's long history of successful road racing includes 20 AMA series championships. Among the many champions who have worn the Kawasaki lime green racing leathers are Reg Pridmore, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey, Miguel Duhamel, Scott Russell, Doug Chandler, Eric Bostrom and more recently Tommy Hayden and Roger Hayden.
"We expect to see eventual improvements in the general economic condition and Kawasaki will reevaluate its road racing position as we monitor those issues," said Stjernstrom.

Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. (KMC) markets and distributes Kawasaki motorcycles, ATVs, personal watercraft, utility vehicles and recreation utility vehicles through a network of more than 1,475 independent retailers, with an additional 8,000 retailers specializing in Kawasaki power products and general purpose engines. KMC and its affiliates employ nearly 3,300 people in the United States, with 400 of them located at KMC's Irvine, California headquarters.

Kawasaki’s tagline,”Let the good times roll,” is recognized worldwide. The Kawasaki brand has become synonymous with powerful, stylish motorcycles for over four decades. Information about Kawasaki’s complete line of recreational products and Kawasaki affiliates can be found on the Internet at www.kawasaki.com (http://www.kawasaki.com/).

KCDakar
12-21-2009, 10:55 AM
At this rate it wont be long. It will collapse and we will have nothing but club racing left. :shrug:

Lickety-Split
01-01-2010, 11:01 PM
... we will have nothing but club racing left. :shrug:

Club racing?!? Who can afford that anymore... I know we can't do the 2010 season and had to drop out mid-2009 season. :cry1: