Kit's Doing It Again

[Kitsune]

I'm.... uh... 3...ish.... months late in starting this thead. :slaphead:

Anyway...
New Year's Day- X had posted to our SOHC/4 forum about a lonely little '72 CL350 that needed a home. It ran, it was in good shape, etc and so on.

I realized very soon that "Hey... I could afford that..."

She was $600, with some spare parts in storage.

X and I headed up there to check it out. The owner was a really nice gentleman who had always liked the CL350 scramblers, but they were very, very rare in his native England. He bought one as soon as he moved here with the intention of collecting all the spare parts he could and keeping forever. Unfortunately, a riding injury long past came back to haunt him and his back, and he was no longer able to ride. The poor little 350 went up for sale again... and that's where I came in.

titled as a K5 for 1973, it actually has more '72 K4 parts, and in those days, VIN numbers weren't an exact science.

Here she is in the beginning (pardon the camphone pics...)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4239302463_b58aa70724.jpg
(It wasn't this exact bike, and a little cleaner than this one, but in about the same shape)
http://www.350twin.com/Project/1972_Honda_350/As_Purchased/600_1972-Honda-350_2.jpg

The gent also gave me all his accumulated parts- crank case halves, jugs, head covers, cams, clutch baskets, 3 fenders.... etc etc etc.

The handlebars were bent, so I replaced them with Norman Hyde M bars (of BSA and '60s era Triumph fame)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2728/4344572574_c7f439eb82.jpg
(if you're wondering why I use my camera phone, it's because Murphy's Law owns the garage, and I'd rather break my phone than our expensive, nice camera. :lol:)

The carbs had been pretty grungy on the inside, so I took 'em down to their component pieces after ordering a couple kits, cleaned 'em up and slapped 'em back together:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4264632935_0a0d43d258.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4264632735_b0d676a8b4.jpg

...and would you believe it still had the original, 1973 airbox (and tires...) ....?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4265382916_b468c6c1df.jpg

In this era of motorcycle design, the "they" who do and plan everything decided it'd be a great idea to route the wiring through the handlebars. This would've worked ok for the M bars, but I just couldn't put myself through that kind of hell again. (taking the wiring out to replace the bent handlebars was bad enough, what with the stiff 40 year old shrink wrap).

Instead, X and I got creative. I sanded/polished the black hard anodizing off the controls (also triumphesque- this little bike is going to get a little bit of cafe racer flair) and we drilled through the bottoms to route the wiring.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3402.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3404.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3408.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3411.jpg
I did the polishing (and will have to again... grr...) but the shrinkwrapping and soldering was all X's doing.

SO... in order to get all that apart, I had to go through the headlight bucket and disconnect everything, so here's my 350 with colored-wire barf out the headlight:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4444112617_02256948b7.jpg
This is after I put on the new turn signals, and was trying to figure out how to make them work, since the original ones only had one wire and grounded via connection to the bike itself.

It took a few hours going back and forth to the wiring diagram and the bucket, some trial and error, etc etc. Probably the biggest pain was getting the little headlight visor to stay where it was supposed to. I eventually figured out I needed to bend the edge a little bit to catch the lip a little better... :wootrock:

So here's my sloppy video celebrating my first triumph over electrical gremlins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHNtwZaGcY

here's a little sketch I did of what I hope the bike ends up looking like when I'm done:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4276153424_7071709080.jpg
Her name is Lola. :thumbsup:

[FJRider]

Kit that is so cool. My first bike was a 1966 Honda 305 Dream. I know that there is not much chance but I hope that some day I come across one some day to restore. I am looking forward to seeing some pics when it is done

D

[Luna Tique]

Hey Kit love the sketch :wootrock:

That looks like another great find. I am sure Lola will be gorgeous when you are done with her.


:offtopic:

Kit that is so cool. My first bike was a 1966 Honda 305 Dream. I know that there is not much chance but I hope that some day I come across one some day to restore.D

I did a quick Craig's list search and look what I found

A 1966 Honda 305 Dream (http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1644168992.html)
http://lunatique.smugmug.com/photos/813828262_5x2Vu-M.jpg (http://lunatique.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Extras/6410196_RpDFG#813828262_5x2Vu)

http://lunatique.smugmug.com/photos/813828260_SjL3N-L.jpg (http://lunatique.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Extras/6410196_RpDFG#813828260_SjL3N)

Sorry for the hijack Kit :redface1:

Now back to your story please :D:

:popcorn1:

[ridingAK]

Wow, I love the sketch, and can't wait to see the finished bike! I admire all you people who have the knowledge to take a bike completely apart, make modifications, and put it back together. I might be able to take it apart and put it back together in the exact same way, but to modify and improve... :eek: Thanks for sharing it once again. :thumbsup:

[KansasKawboy]

:wootrock: I do love the Honda CLs, a buddy of mine had a 350 when we were in High School and I always liked. I too can't wait to see it. :wootrock:

Nice drawing!!!

[Gitana]

I so admire people who can take something apart and restore it. I just don't have the time or the location to be able to; maybe someday. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress. And that white bike is gorgeous!

[bluekat]

Awesome project you got there! I love this style of bike. I'll enjoy watching it all come together. Great sketch too btw!

[Xrayted]

What I really like is the "marlboro" box the guy gave full of spare parts. Both of us non smokers, the irony wasn't lost on us. :rolleyes:

He was a nice gent and we will send him some pics when it is done. I have a '69 CL350 ('68 leftover) that I'm working on too since Nov but it seems we will get this one done 1st. It's too much $$$ all at once for both.

So, I was doing a 16hr shift at work yesterday while Kit took her last final for the term and then started on the bike. We've been collecting parts, cleaning out tanks, redoing wiring... pretty much anything we could do inside while it was rainy and cold outside.

It hit 65F yesterday and I rode the HD into work. In the dark both ways. Oh well. I was feeling down because I missed all the sunshine, so out of the blue, I get that video on my phone at work with the headlight back on and the turn signals working. :wootrock:

We both have 2 tanks, all kinds of spare parts... the guy didn't realize that it was one of the more popular bikes of the day (along with it's cousins the CB350 and the SL350) and bought a bunch of parts, just in case. Good for us because you never know what will come in handy. We will eventually go through all the stuff we don't need so much, clean it up and resell it on feebay to make back some of the cost of restore. We're talking extra engine cases, forks, wheels, fenders, along with a ton of small stuff.

Our goal is to get it as a daily rider for her to commute to college. We would love to have them both at least running reliably and safe by July so we can take them camping but we'll see. It's going to be tight $$ wise unless I can get some more OT at work. That will happen in the spring but that also limits the time I can spend actually working on them too. :slaphead:

So to date the tally is...

2 running cycles, 2 project cycles, 1 parts cycle, 3 bicycles and 1 car. I like those odds. :lol:


Oh as for old rusty tanks... throw in a length of old bicycle chain to break up the bigger chunks, pull it out, put in some of "The Works" toilet cleaner, full strength, swish around occasionally for an hour or 2 hitting all the sides and corners well, rinse out with water, then water and baking soda to stop the process, then with just water again till it comes out clear every time, put in a bottle or 2 of "Heet" gas additive to help dry it up and if you really need to, pour in a little diesel or a very light oil to coat it if it's going to be a while before use. Drying it quickly with the Heet and using diesel will keep it from flash rusting. All together, it should cost less than $15 and a few hours to bring back the tank to new on the inside.

We bought Ospho for the surface rust spots on the frame and other stuff that gets painted. It is a rust converter. You wire brush the rusty spots to knock of any excess, then brush the ospho on. It will turn white then eventually black. At that point the rust is converted back to metal and you can paint on it.(or leave it plain) No primer needed and no lost metal. This can really come in handy if you just have a few touch up spots and you don't want to disassemble the whole bike for a total frame repaint. So for those little rub spots or scratches we all get on frames, swingarms, etc that will eventually get rusty, this is a good thing to keep around. Ace Hardware carries it for about $11 bottle.


Have fun and be safe. :):

[Astir]

You two are awesome! :wootrock: Thanks for taking the time to updates us on this wonderful project - Lola is going to be a beauty!

[Kitsune]

no pics for now because it got dark in the garage....
but...
I painted my tank and air box covers. The plan all along has been to use truck bed liner for its subtle matte/leather-like finish, to set off the beautiful shine of the 40 year old white stripe on the side. The red tank needs to be soaked with acetone to get rid of the failing liner, but my faded blue 'spare' got cleaned and prepped.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4447520418_f20c9c0ed2.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4447520396_ae16868b3f_o.jpg

Painting with bed liner is pretty tricky and not for perfectionists- if the can starts getting 'too' empty, it'll start shooting too much paint and too little air, resulting in big bubbly blobs. Wrong angle and you shoot too much air/ too little paint and it gets speckley (which is preferable to the blobs, anyway...) and un-masking is almost as hard as masking because it tends to adhere to itself better than whatever you're painting at first, so you need to trace all your masking lines with a razor blade before you peel, or you end up peeling your paint up, as well. If you wait TOO long, though, before unmasking, the tape becomes one with the painted item for good.


SO.... having done all that, I'm still pretty pleased with the way my tank and airbox covers turned out. They're not perfect, but at 10 ft/10mph it looks perfect and I'll take a detail brush and some regular paint to touch up the remaining blue showing around the masked areas.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4446745003_aa277a2bc3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4446745027_6401205154.jpg

I won't be running the original airbox covers (the painted red ones) because they're too valuable and too likely to get stolen. Instead, I'll just run my little black covers, held on by the little brass "bullets" or little silver acorn nuts if I can find some the right metric size.

The bike's original front fender also got a coat of ospho underneath, and after it dried, a quick spray of bedliner to keep it from rusting any further. I'm going to have to seriously consider whether or not to paint the front and rear fenders. They're chrome right now, and as beautiful as the chrome is on the rear fender, it's bubbly and iffy on the front one, back by the headers. Again, it easily passes 10ft/10mph but up close the lack of chrome quality is telling...

I think for now I'd rather have it looking iffy but running right. There will always be time to take it off and give it a good working over with a wire wheel, then a bedliner painting as well... but the rear one (I think) would make me have to un-wire the tail lights and remove all that stuff, etc etc and I just wasn't up for it tonight. Maybe some weekend when it's warmer and drier.

Edit: I did end up bringing the tank in tonight and repainting the Honda badge. Big improvement, though maybe it doesn't show so much in this pic:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4446745103_786f795553.jpg
I'm also aware that this lighting doesn't really show the contrast between the matte black and the shiny white, but I'll try to get a later picture that does it justice.

Fuel lines are all hooked up with inline filters and spring temp-guards in place. The newly painted tank is sitting on X's bike's frame drying and curing before I stick it on my bike around the carbs and stuff.

Just waiting on the couplers which should be coming via Mr. UPSman tomorrow, and I need to put the exhaust back on (it came off in about 15 minutes, so 'on' should only take an hour) :chin:

After all that, barring carb leaks (all the gaskets etc are new, but you never know if they're seated right, and I didn't change the float height so that should be ok... hoping for no air bubbles under the float needle....) and unforeseen wiring errors, I should be able to see if she starts tomorrow.:smiley:
...well ok, after putting on the exhaust, hooking up the fuel lines, and setting the valves and points...

[msyzf2u]

You Are Amazing!

[KansasKawboy]

Cool, thanks for the update and good luck.

[Luna Tique]

:worthy: it is going to be a great economical commuter bike for you Kit.:thumbup:
I am really enjoying following your progress :D:
I admire you for having the know how, resources and desire to rebuild and or restore these beautiful old machines.:perfect10:



PS: Thanks X for the heads up on Ospho. Sounds like a great product.:thumbup:

:popcorn1:

[Condor]

Yipee..another resto project journal. I luv it! Can't wait to see the progress and pics.

[Queen]

Love, love, love the project!! Those older Hondas need to be kept around and running, and you're just the gals to do it. :thumbsup:


BTW - To the 305 Dream folks, that's the bike I learned to ride on... my dad's '63.

[indianscout]

Love, love, love the project!! Those older Hondas need to be kept around and running, and you're just the gals to do it. :thumbsup:



:thumbsup:





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[Kitsune]

Yesterday: (just reminder parts pics, sorry)
Tank got put back on, along with the crossover tube, all the fuel lines got hooked up. The front brake was dragging a little so we took the wheel off and...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2722/4465584058_688b16f128.jpg
:wtf:

40 year old grease is not happy grease.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/4464807471_c8f2e3e5f0.jpg

Shoes came off (the brake shoes, not ours!)
and we could start cleaning/degreasing/regreasing.

It took some some real work to clean up the pivot points but by the time we were done, everything was niiice and smooth again.

So, front wheel back on, we re-routed the clutch cable, got the brake cable re-situated, exhaust gaskets in, now I just need to take another look at the clutch (inside the case) and put my exhaust back on. whew.

[Luna Tique]

Thanks for the progress report and pictures :thumbup:

Looks like your hard work is paying off.:cheers:

[indianscout]

40 year old grease is not happy grease.


After 20 it turns to tar!!! :lol:




:thumbup:

[2catsandadogsmommy]

COOL! THANKS FOR SHARING:roflmao:

[Kitsune]

Today was another big day. ***:) ***
The clutch was readjusted with no problems. ***That let us start on the exhaust.
They started out looking like this:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3468.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3471.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3470.jpg
...I am now being told that we didn't get 'after' pictures. ***I'm kicking myself, here, I really am. ***:P ***Wellllll after a few hours of WD-40 and brush work, some über fine steel wool and ospho, they came out looking pretty much like new. ***The rust spots were down to small black freckles which are unnoticeable unless you get up real close.

here I am dinking with the foot pegs and giving Xrayted a look while she's pointing the camera at me. :D
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3474.jpg

then a lot of time passed. The sun went down. ***It got cold and dark. ***We cranked the radio, drank some caffeine, shut up and danced. :D ***Grips went on, brake line got rerouted, replaced the bent up shift lever with a 'new' old one that cleaned up real well.

I took a file to the edges of the fins, flattening them a little so the light really catches them. (had to do something while waiting for the ospho to do its thing) ***changed the spark plugs over (still need to put some antisieze and dielectric grease on them ,but figured I'd be monkeying with them on and off until the bike is really finished anyway, so no worries.

Got 'er all done 'cept for the gas in the tank. ***We figured at 11:30ish, it would be kind of late to try to deal with leaky carbs. ***We put that off 'til tomorrow.
Here are some pics of our self-congratulations. 8)

Polishing the switch pods before I take the protective baggies off the new turn signals...
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3476.jpg
...why yes, I AM stoked about those pipes...;D
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3485.jpg
Gratuitous M-bar shot:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3482.jpg
Sittin' on it an' goin "Vroom!"
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3479.jpg

And then Xrayted got me to pose:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3494.jpg

[ridingAK]

Beautiful work! You deserve that happy and proud pose!

[Luna Tique]

Beautiful work! You deserve that happy and proud pose!


I agree :clapping:

[Astir]

The pipes look amazing!!!!!!!

[indianscout]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/arynfox/IMG_3494.jpg



One can not explain how gratifying it is to put in all that work and have it come out looking so good! The real pleaser will be when someone comes up to you and ask's if that was the same bike or a different one....:lol: She is really looking sweet! (Both of them actually!;):)



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[KansasKawboy]

Good job! :wootrock:

[FJRider]

Again WAY COOL!!!!! It is coming really GREAT. Your hard work is really showing

D

[Kitsune]

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3503.jpg?t=1269741157

She runs!

...so we washed her!
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3496.jpg?t=1269741206

...and she still ran!
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/IMG_3505.jpg?t=1269741249

:wootrock:

This was also my first time kicking a bike over... Many thanks go to Xrayted for not videotaping my confusion at how to operate the kickstarter.

[Xrayted]

We were both happy to have her start right back up after getting a good scrubbing.:ecstasy:
We don't have it registered yet so we just rode around the apartment complex, over to get washed and then back to the garage. Still some stuff to do, little by little. The biggest thing is, she didn't even hesitate when we hit the button. Kit tried to kick her over a few times too. Works just fine that way too. :cool:

Just got out of the shower and we're off to have a nice dinner out and hot tub. We are tired, hungry and SORE. :lol: OMG, am I sore from being at all kinds of weird angles on the concrete floor over the past few days. I feel as old as dirt right now. :rolleyes:

Catch y'all later. I'll have to check on indianscout's build thread after dinner. Sorry. Priorities. You don't want to get between me and food right now. Trust me on this. :lol:

[FJRider]

Congrats on a job WELL DONE!!!! This is O so cool. One of these drove buy me today and I thought of your bike. I hope that you now have many miles of fun ahead of you.

Denis

[kari-star]

Oh as for old rusty tanks... throw in a length of old bicycle chain to break up the bigger chunks, pull it out, put in some of "The Works" toilet cleaner, full strength, swish around occasionally for an hour or 2 hitting all the sides and corners well, rinse out with water, then water and baking soda to stop the process, then with just water again till it comes out clear every time, put in a bottle or 2 of "Heet" gas additive to help dry it up and if you really need to, pour in a little diesel or a very light oil to coat it if it's going to be a while before use. Drying it quickly with the Heet and using diesel will keep it from flash rusting. All together, it should cost less than $15 and a few hours to bring back the tank to new on the inside.


SLIGHT HIJACK:
so last night my partner and I were driving out to dinner and he was talking about how you could tell he hadn't gone anywhere all day (he works at home) because the rotors on his car were rusted up already. And I didn't realize that THAT was what had happened when you have a slight grinding on a damp day when you hit the brakes for the first time,

so he said "yeah, they call it spot rusting, or..."
and I jumped in (as I was daubing perfume behind my ears, mind you): "oh yeah, flash rusting. that's what they call it when it happens to gas tanks after you've just cleaned them during restoration."

He thought that was SO COOL, and also apparently this kind of knowledge is also kinda hott. he has a triumph he's been working on for years, so he really appreciates that I'm learning about this stuff from y'all!

[ridingAK]

:rofl: It is kinda nice to surprise 'em with unexpected knowledge every so often!

[indianscout]

:rofl: Chaulk one up for the kari-star!!! :yahoo:



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[Astir]

:lol: Way to go kari-star! :thumbsup:

[Xrayted]

hehe. you never know when this stuff will come in handy. :lol:

[Luna Tique]

:lol: Paying attention and absorbing what you have read.:thumbup:
:wootrock:Good for you Kari-star :cheers:

This site is great :yahoo:
It has given me the courage to dauble in the art of moto mechanics:D: ( simple stuff )

With a huge bonus is it has left me money for more farkles or future trip spending.:thumbup:

[Xrayted]

2 very good reasons to do some of your own work. You have no idea how easy it is to change your own oil, spark plugs, air filter, etc. Then you have more $$ to buy cool stuff. :lol:

[Kitsune]

...on the other hand.... :chin:

I went to D&S Cycle today and the guy behind the counter said $30 per wheel to mount and balance tires.

hmm.

I'm just trying to figure out what my time is worth because I know it could potentially take me HOURS to get the wheels off... (and put them back on) and these guys do it all day every day.

...so there's always paying people to do stuff you could do yourself but consider a PITA enough to foist upon someone else...:lol:

[FJRider]

If that is 30.00 on the bike then that is not to bad of a deal. There are shops here that want 30 dollars if you carry the wheel in to mount and balance starting with cyclegear if you did not buy it there.

Denis

[indianscout]

I had to learn how to lace, mount and balance my own wheels as no one around here did that at the time. You are right about it being a PITA but if I wanted to ride I needed to learn. As a result, I now help out part time in a shop and I do most of the mounting and balancing. I can do one wheel in about 1/2 hour but Iv'e had lot's of practice too! $30.00 per wheel is very reasonable I think. How many hours would it take you to do it yourself? Then how many hours of OT at work would you have to put in to pay for it (minus the headachs)? Somethings you have to learn to do yourself wile others can do it for you and better (?). Pick your battles.




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[evolwife]

What an *awesome* job -- very talented and skilled work! Your report is so well documented and inspirational -- I get thinking maybe "anyone" (me??) could restore a cool bike. I need to remind myself that "anyone" else would have a permanent mess in the garage :-)

I would love to find a 350cc or 400 (new) in the marketplace, like they offer in Europe. There's such a jump between my little Ninja and my Bonneville. I actually prefer my Ninja most days.

Your restoration is so so cool. Well done!!

[FJRider]

What an *awesome* job -- very talented and skilled work! Your report is so well documented and inspirational -- I get thinking maybe "anyone" (me??) could restore a cool bike. I need to remind myself that "anyone" else would have a permanent mess in the garage :-)

I would love to find a 350cc or 400 (new) in the marketplace, like they offer in Europe. There's such a jump between my little Ninja and my Bonneville. I actually prefer my Ninja most days.

Your restoration is so so cool. Well done!!


Here you go you can get something all ready to go

http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/uk/motorshop-podevyn/01-13018/

Denis

[Condor]

I'm luvin your resto info. I'm fairly mechanically inclined, but don't think I would be brave enough to tackle all the things you have. I will be changing the rear tire on my bike soon. Changed the front at the end of last season. I've never done one on a shaft drive before, so it's a bit more involved than the old chain drive. But when I get to a point when I feel like giving up, I will just think of you folks and all that you have accomplished. Keep the pics and info comin, it's great.:clapping:

[Xrayted]

Well, as it turns out, we grabbed a u-haul MC trailer for $15, put the little tyke on there and dropped her off at the shop. The owner, it seems, had one this exact year and model as his 1st real bike in high school. :cool: He really seemed to like what Kit had done to it so far and was pretty happy to put some tires on for her. So, we went and had a few hours to kill before they closed and hit the Army/Navy surplus store for some cinch bags to put our sleeping bags in on camping trips, went to the arcade and played some games (haven't done that in years), and then saw Alice in Wonderland. Good, weird movie. We were gone less than an hour and she got the call that the tires were done and they had greased the rear one and set the brakes. :): New tubes, rims strips, the whole thing. We still had tix to the movie so she asked if they could just take a look at the valve settings, points and carbs. In the middle of the movie, Kit realized she didn't leave them the key to start the bike. So, we beeline there after the movie before they close and give 'em the key. The younger guys were back there trying to set it... getting nowhere. The owner walks back and 10 min later, all of it was set. Lola sounded like a big mean lawnmower. :lol:

He rode her out and put her on the trailer and was smiling and talking to us. I have to tell you, the HD dealer charges $95 per tire and Honda is about the same. That is without rim strips, without tubes, just the mount and balance. This guy charged $130 total for everything. Didn't charge Kit for the tune. He was pretty happy just to work on one again, I think.

We took her home and Kit rode her around a bit while I opened the garage, moved Delilah out so Lola could go in. She's liking those new tires a lot more than the 38yo ones that were on, definitely. :rolleyes:

Kit ordered some numbers for the air boxes and put those on the other day. She's not running the trim covers on them so she put a "350" on the the boxes themselves. Those side covers can get expensive at this point and she didn't want them stolen. She should be seeing her cafe seat sometime this week. When we get that on, we'll take some more pics. It should be pretty done at that point.

I'm looking at the insurance for it now to add it on and then Kit can get the plates and title switched this week. I didn't want to insure something that was in pieces and wouldn't see the road for a while. Waste of $$ if we found out the engine was toast or something else was catastrophically wrong.

Those Avon Roadriders are the bees knees though. It's hard to find a decent tire in the sizes we need that isn't a dirt nobby tire. It's probably what I'll be putting on my bike when we get it started.

Oh yeah, I have a '69 CL350 that I bought a 2 months before this one for my birthday. That is our next project.

:decisions:

[indianscout]

Has anyone told you (lately) just how sick you are??? :lol: I am really enjoying the progress you two have made on this bike. I thought she was sweet as she is now but am really excited to see what she looks like with at new cafe seat!! Sounds like you really hit a soft spot with your Honda dealer too. Nice to know there are other people out there who appreciate things like this. :wootrock: Keep up the great work!!




:popcorn1:

[KansasKawboy]

I'm :envy:

[Kitsune]

got some brain pickin' for you guys who know twins...
She'll start up and after some throttle futzing idle good... but when I ride her 'round 5k and above, it gets jerky- like it's running out of gas or something. One cylinder only fires intermittently, being a big ol' kick in the butt when it fires, but like I said, this is only every now again. Feels weird.

with 5k miles on the bike, the issues probably have more to do with dirt, rust and age more than wear, but that's on my list, too.

I've been really thinking about the symptoms and I think I'd first check the carb's running jet because the issue happens more at higher revs. I'll try to get the sync closer on the carbs, but it sounds like they open/shut at the same time right now.

If that seems ok, then my next step will be to test resistance on the spark plug caps (less than 5000 ohms resistance?) and maybe nip a half inch-ish off the spark plug wires to get some fresh copper on there.

Then I'll have to start thinking about the points/condensers. They're $15 each (left and right) from Honda. Jim (D&S) said he'd cleaned them up and they look good... but he didn't run any electrical testing and until I do some heavier reading on them and learn a thing or two, I don't even know what to think about them. The timing is supposed to be right, though.

There had been a wire grounding out at the points before, according to Jim. I don't know if this is still the case.

It runs great on the right cylinder.
The left adds a heckova kick in the rear when it fires, but seems only intermittent at speed...


What do you think?

[KansasKawboy]

I think your on the right track. It could be any of the things you listed. Have you cleaned the carbs? There could be some crud floating around in that carb and it gets picked up sometimes.

[Kitsune]

I went through the carbs once already, but don't discount the possibility that there could be more poo in there. My 650 kept working stuff out, and took >5 cleanings to be 'right'.

Gas is an excellent solvent and seems to work loose anything that might've dried in there somewhere in the last 10-20 years.

[indianscout]

My old bikes will do things like this and I am dealing with one now that does just about the same thing as yours is doing. I usually get lucky enough to make things better by doing a good carb cleaning again but not this time. I may have to try it again. Change your plugs and clean your carbs again. My local shop says that Honda carbs when clean and dialed in right are choise, if not they can be a royal PITA!! Keep at it and you'll figure it out........then let us know. :D:


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[Xrayted]

already has new plugs but we didn't freshen up the plug wires or replace anything along those lines yet.

Sometimes, a lower battery can cause symptoms like these in the small twins so we are trickle charging the battery too. Ya never know. It hasn't had a good run yet to charge it back up, just gets little runs at low speed and low revs. Clean the carbs again, and again, and again, and... :zen:

Otherwise it runs really smooth.

[FJRider]

Just about all of what I was thinking has already been covered. I will had one little thing about the carbs. Make sure that the float level is correct. If it is off on one of the carbs and set to low then at higher RPM it can cause the cylinder to go lean and act like it is miss-firing

Denis

[Kitsune]

that was what I was thinking, too, but I actually have a slow drip from Lefty's overflow tube. Time for the bowl to drop. Hoping I don't have to take the whole carb OUT because that would mean taking the exhaust off again. :P

[FJRider]

that was what I was thinking, too, but I actually have a slow drip from Lefty's overflow tube. Time for the bowl to drop. Hoping I don't have to take the whole carb OUT because that would mean taking the exhaust off again. :P

Which can mean a float too high, a dirty needle and seat, or a worn needle and seat.

Denis

[Kitsune]

...or a cracked overflow tube. :lol:

I won't know 'til Thursday afternoon or so.

[Kitsune]

Took the bike to a friend's garage. He's a pro with these bikes and actually races them, so he knows them inside and out. My idle circuit AND plug wires/caps were both partly at fault, so the bike's staying there for now, her carbs in the ultrasonic cleaner, later to be blasted out with an air compressor. :D Oh the wonders of tools I wish I could afford. :D

[msyzf2u]

Thanks for the update, I was wondering how things were going :)

[Kitsune]

Today's just one of those days. :badday:
I took today off as a mental health day, especially since my new cafe seat just came in.

The major bummer after waiting two weeks for it: It doesn't fit. :cry1: It was made to fit a bike running a CB350 tank... not a CL. The difference is about 3 inches of tank length and maybe another gallon of fuel capacity.

One of the guys at the shop was parting out a CB350, though, and let me have a tank that's in good shape aside from a dent in the side for $20. That's a spankin' deal, especially when I pop that dent out (though with that dent it'd have more "street cred" :dodge::chin:
but I'm fully expecting it to look like this when I'm done
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/4516355967_8864bb52b6_m.jpg
which will match the "sidecovers" better, because they, too, are a blend of shiny black and white and leather-like bed liner.
The extra gas will be good for a commutermobile bike, too.
....oh right, I remember, you ladies like pictures... :D
Here's a mockup from Photoshop, with the only angle I could get of that specific year of cb350...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/4516394713_2bc377e5a5.jpg

and here's how the seat and tank unhappily coexist right now:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4517002806_df39857a32.jpg


More hoops to jump through getting it titled/registered/tagged, since I bought it without a title or tags... :slaphead:
but I found the registration from 1989.
:o:
Ups and downs, ups and downs. We left the gas on accidentally at the shop, so she peed all over Paul's lift. I informed him and he said "All the hondas on my lift do that. It seems to just be a honda thing."
...oh.
...and that was my day vacation.

I dunno if IndianScout feels this way, but the only times a build is really, really a pain in the rear is when you had a definite plan starting out. If you let the build grow organically and do its own thing, it usually seems to be easier if not maybe a little more expensive... :redface1:
but maybe someone will want to buy my sexy CL tank.

[indianscout]

Today's just one of those days. :badday:



I dunno if IndianScout feels this way, but the only times a build is really, really a pain in the rear is when you had a definite plan starting out. If you let the build grow organically and do its own thing, it usually seems to be easier if not maybe a little more expensive... :redface1:


Oh girl, you have no idea of how many times I have had that happen! It takes on a mind of it's own but with my checkbook!! :mgbanghead::mgbanghead::mgbanghead: (Kind'a like an old girlfriend of mine.) My only constulation is that when it is all done and finished, you just know it couldn't have gotten much better than it is. Long after you have forgotten how much it cost, you will still be enjoying the bike and the quality of the build. And as for extra parts??? Well, how do you think one becomes a vendor at the swap meets?!?!?!?! :lol:



Still lov'n this build. :yahoo:

[Kitsune]

Lesson #21231
Never trust a mechanic you don't know personally.

Paul called me tonight and said "Y'know how I told you that usually, for most people, I insist I do the full tune-up and check everything in the right order, but because I know you, and you say it's already been done, I'm looking just at the carbs?"
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

So when I brought the bike in, Paul asked me , "are the valves, points and timing set?"
I said "Yes, they were done at D&S"
"Well, then I'll just look at the carbs"

nooo no.
I am REAL freakin' glad D&S only charged an hour of labor (or did they do it free and take a couple hours to change the tires?) for the d**n valves, points and timing because they were all way WAY WAY off. ****!

If you haven't noticed, this is not necessarily a glowing endorsement for D&S. It also makes me strongly suspect the quality of my ft. brake drum and realize that odds are real good they didn't set anything at all. WTF is up with that?!

I guess on the positive side of things, my jets weren't totally awful, so I didn't do a terrible job cleaning and reassembling them.

The erratic idle is still goin' on on Lefty, and there's some weird, semi-random pinging coming from over there, too. When a seasoned mechanic calls a sound "weird" it's a little unnerving... but it doesn't seem to be carbs, points are set to 12 and 14, timing is right (now) so next it's the valves and camchain. I just feel bad because I thought this was going to be a quick, easy job for him and now it's becoming a real pain in the rear because someone else effed up and/or lied to me. :P

[indianscout]

"Quick" and "easy"????? Ya-right, good one Kit!!!! :rofl::rofl: That don't happen very often!! Have you meet my friend Murphy?? Murphy's Law says "Anything that can go wrong, will and usually at the worst possable moment". Frustrating is just part of the whole deal. Everyone who has spun a wrench has been in the same situation as you. Take a few deep breaths and move on. There is a valuable lesson you have learned here and you have come far grasshopper! :D:



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[FJRider]

Kit Truly GOOD wrenches are a rare find. I feel so Lucky in that not only do I have one But I have one that I know is a order of magnitude better then I am. Money being so tight right now I am trying to decide if I am going to do a pending upgrade or if I am going to pay him to do it. He is just so good but I so want to do it.

O-well do not beat yourself up. It is just not worth it. Live and learn. Just another step in who you can REALL TRUST is all. Once and in while we need to reminded of this is all.

Denis

[Kitsune]

Yeah. I trust Paul quite a bit. I really consider him something of a genius when it comes to this stuff... I just feel a little bad, also, that I took my bike to that other place because they were closer (but not cheaper!!!) ugh.

[FJRider]

Lesson's learned are worth there weight in GOLD!!!

RIGHT!!!!

TRUST ME! there are a lot more of them in my life then I ever want to admit to. In the end all is good.

Denis

[ridingAK]

Have you ever noticed that "closer" is almost a certain sign that they aren't as good? In Anchorage the only place that worked on BMW's was a joke at best. In Spokane, the closest BMW shop (until recently) was just across the border in Idaho but people would ride by that place to take their bikes to Montana to get work done, it's even true with the UPS store. The one close to us stinks, but a few miles further away there is a great place. It makes we wonder about people who live near the places we drive further to get to. Are they treated badly so the rule stays true?

[Kitsune]

I dunno, but I'd rather not have to ride/trailer a bike through northwest portland through the 'low-rent' district to get to NE and Paul's shop, but what can one do? He's an awesome, awesome guy, and teleporters haven't been invented yet. :D

[ridingAK]

:lol:

[Kitsune]

valves were done, but problem still existed. I brought in another couple of coils to test out the ignition....

[KansasKawboy]

:zen: :zen: hoping that the coils fix the problem.

[indianscout]

A long shot here Kit but I had some issues with Peaches a few years ago and found out it was the coil. As it is there are two different types of coils and I had the wrong one. I needed the one that had an internal resistor as the one without would cause the electrical gremlins to go mad in my bike and cause all sorts of strange problems. Is there only one type of coil that will work on your bike? Also with the "quality" in quality controle on electrical parts being of questionable standards the last few years, I think it is smart to try several coils to make sure you didn't get a bad one right from the start. An un-needed valve job doesn't hurt a thing and eliminates one more possable problem down the road. Hang in there!


:chin:

[Kitsune]

Paul got a few big bottles of really nice microbrews for his efforts... but I didn't hear anything new yesterday since dropping off the coils. hmm...

got a new tank (if you look up the CB350G, it's that one) that I'm cleaning and painting so I can use my new cafe seat... because the seat won't work with the shorter, smaller CL tank (of course).

Delilah has stopped charging again... so we need to troubleshoot her too. All this right before the big group ride Saturday. YAAAAYYYYyyyyyy.

[LittleRedRider]

Kit, your abilities are amazing. I've enjoyed reading and seeing the pictures of your project.
:zen: for everything coming together for you.

[maximoto]

:iagree: Good luck on ousting the gremlins!

[Astir]

Where is the holy water emoticon?

:zen:

[Kitsune]

ha! well... I'm using POR15 metalprep on the $20 CB350G tank right now... it's supposed to etch, remove rust and coat with zinc. We'll see if it does what it promises. :D

I took pictures of the masking-off and everything else, so we'll see how this does... then maybe I'll paint it yet tonight and let it cure overnight in the house where it's warm.

[ridingAK]

Good luck! My fingers are crossed for you.

[FJRider]

Don't worry too much. It takes time but I am sure that with both heads you will figure this out. One thing you might want to try is adding a new ground that goes from the Battery to the Frame to the Engine. This is something that we find we have to do on some of the OLD FJs.

Denis

[indianscout]

ha! well... I'm using POR15 metalprep on the $20 CB350G tank right now... it's supposed to etch, remove rust and coat with zinc. We'll see if it does what it promises. :D


I use it on all my tanks and have had very good luck with it. The key is to make sure you properly etch the metal or it will flake off and look like potato chips floating in your fuel.....

Don't worry too much. It takes time but I am sure that with both heads you will figure this out. One thing you might want to try is adding a new ground that goes from the Battery to the Frame to the Engine. This is something that we find we have to do on some of the OLD FJs.

Denis


Good call FJ.



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[Xrayted]

Well, Delilah (the 650) made the ride today. All went well on that end. We dropped off a new condenser for the 350 while there. (the ride started at Paul's shop, it's his b-day) Paul rides an old Norton and a BSA. Those are his sole transportation. So, if he can keep those running, imagine what he can do with a Honda. :lol: He's been very busy and was kind enough to take Kit's bike in and get to it on the side. Nice guy. He has had tons of these so knows them inside and out. One thing at a time, checked methodically and move on. He was showing us what order and how to check/sync the carbs and get the throttle cables set up.

Yeah, D&S was nice but they did a lousy job on the tuning. Good job and cheap on the tires though. I would go to them on a tire change again but nothing else.

The new to us tank. Where we started...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Picture001-1.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Picture005-1.jpg

I tapped out the dent from inside.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Picture006-1.jpg

After Kit cleaned up the inside and the surface rust she put a few coats of truck bedliner on. :D: We still have a little bit of tape here and thereto clean off on this pic but you get the gist of it.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Picture009-1.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Picture011-1.jpg

I think it's going to look even better than the other tank. I'm already eyeing the other one up for my project. One less thing to paint for me. :chin::rolleyes:

Off to bed. The morning comes too soon sometimes.

[Luna Tique]

Looks good :thumbup:

[ridingAK]

That looks beautiful.

[KansasKawboy]

Good job! :thumbsup:

[Kitsune]

went in to swap over the coil, which didn't solve the problem. While waiting for the PB Blaster to do something, I stuck on the new tank and seat- seat still needs a bracket to really line up and everything, but it still looks pretty good. :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4531819259_56b95e40d4.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4532451536_94dd969746.jpg

I wanted to get a good profile shot, but the shop is a little too confined.

I am so going to buy/find/steal one of those cb350g chrome seat strips to complete the lines from tank to seat... you can see one on the orange 350g in the background...

[Xrayted]

Psssst. Don't tell Kit. I just bought a chrome cb350g seat trim strip for her. ;):

[KansasKawboy]

Psssst. Don't tell Kit. I just bought a chrome cb350g seat trim strip for her. ;):
I won't tell. :D:

[Astir]

:lol:

[indianscout]

What a bunch of goof-balls! :lol: Bike is really taking shape and I confess that I have been asking around for a CB350 or simular bike to do what your doing Kit. Really loving the looks of your bike and excited to hear how she handles on the road. Keep up the good work!!!


.

[Xrayted]

Update on Kit's 350... so I rode it home after getting it tuned at our buddy's shop and it was a tank slapper the whole way above 25mph. We looked at the tires that other shop put on and realized that they didn't bead them correctly. They probably couldn't get it to balance so they just threw on a bunch of weight.

I called them about it and the guy who answered asked what kind of POS tires did we have them mount, anyway? I told him they are Avons, not POS. He blew me off and basically told me I'm effed and not getting any $$ back for anything. :badday:

Yesterday we finally had the heart to go back out to the bike, with new tire spoons in hand and having watched a youtube video on how to change MC tires, to fix the tires ourselves. As we got the front tire off on one side of the rim so we could pull out the tube, we realized that they put an 18" tube in a 19" tire/rim. Even if it was a 19" tube the tube size was still too small for this size of tire. They put on a 225/250 when it should have been at least a 300. So, no matter how you pump it up, it really can't get big enough to actually fill the tire and make it hard enough to ride on safely. :mad:

So, now I'm wondering what we will find with the rear tire... well, it turns out they put a 18" tube in the 18" tire but they put one in that's actually bigger than the tire itself. We needed a 300/325 and they put on a 450/550! :mgbanghead: It's pinched in there, can't possibly pump up hard and expand the way it should. Now I'm livid. Not only did he totally bullshit us, but he could have easily killed me.

We got charged $130 for crap, essentially. After the owner's "free" tune job, we ended up taking it to our buddy's shop to get it set up right. As it turned out, they messed with a lot in there.

We have to wait until Tues to get some tubes (every single MC place around here is closed on Mondays) and I'm going back into that shop this week to talk to the owner. I've since found out that they have a lot of complaints about stuff like this.

[ridingAK]

That is the kind of thing that makes me furious. What a bunch of incompetent buffoons. :nono:

[KansasKawboy]

That is the kind of thing that makes me furious. What a bunch of incompetent buffoons. :nono:
:iagree:

[FJRider]

I would see if there is a license board in your state and make a complaint as it truly could have endangered your life's.

[Luna Tique]

I would see if there is a license board in your state and make a complaint as it truly could have endangered your life's.

That is what I was thinking.
You really shouldn't just walk away and let this :asshat: get away with this.
If he is left to continue his dangerous ways some day someone will be seriously hurt or worse yet die.
I know you will spread the word about his shop every chance to get but perhaps in your state there is more that can be done.

[KansasKawboy]

I would see if there is a license board in your state and make a complaint as it truly could have endangered your life's.
And or the Better Business Bureau.

[Queen]

Some people just need their asses kicked.

[ridingAK]

yep.

[Xrayted]

So, today I took the 350 out for a short spin. I got some spare keys made and then rode it to work this afternoon. Man, that little thing is so fun to ride. I wish the headlight was better though. We are now looking at replacing that old, yellow 1.5 candlepower bulb from the 70's. Holy cow! How in the world did we ever see anything in front of us back then? :lol:

Yes, I did go back in there to that shop today and let him have it. I didn't yell, I just took the tubes back in and let him know what tires they were shoved into. He looked astonished, questioned outloud "why the heck?" and then acted like they should have worked, to cover his ass. In the end, he wouldn't admit that they had done anything wrong, wouldn't take even the slightest responsibility for it at all. He took my tubes and kept them and threw them in the trash. Refused to give me any of my $$ back since I didn't bring it back in to them to fix. I asked him how in the world did he expect me to ever trust them enough to touch any of my bikes again after that. No way.

I let him know that I belong to 3 MC clubs in the area and will let all of those 1000s of bikers know what he did. Then I told him how us 2 chicks watched a youtube video and did a better job of taking off/putting on the tires than his "professional" guys did. :wootrock:Then I told him he can keep his $$. At this point, I really want to be able to tell everyone how he treated me and almost killed me and then kept my tubes and wouldn't give my $$ back. I wished him luck paying his mortgage after this. :D: That's the best way to put my boot up his ass without having to wipe of the toes afterward.

[ridingAK]

Good for you. Get his name out there as much as possible. He needs to go out of business before he kills someone.

[Queen]

Good for you. Get his name out there as much as possible. He needs to go out of business before he kills someone.
Absolutely!

Way to go X! :thumbsup:

[KansasKawboy]

Good for you. Get his name out there as much as possible. He needs to go out of business before he kills someone.
:iagree: :clapping:

[Gitana]

Make sure you post about it on AdvRider. It hits a really wide audience, especially if you cross-post in several locations. That's unbelievable to me that he wouldn't refund your money. I would absolutely complain about him to the BBB. And you might want to pull his business license records, find out his insurance company name and then call them. I'm sure they'd be very interested in his business practices.

[FJRider]

I would add sport-touring and pashnit to that list O and of course just email it to everyone in the area that you know and see how it moves on

Denis

[Astir]

I let him know that I belong to 3 MC clubs in the area and will let all of those 1000s of bikers know what he did. Then I told him how us 2 chicks watched a youtube video and did a better job of taking off/putting on the tires than his "professional" guys did. :wootrock:

:rofl:


:thumbsup:

[Luna Tique]

:clapping:

[sweptwingnut]

Name and address of the shop that goofed your tires please......

[Condor]

I have to second what everyone else has said. It's unbelievable how someone can operate that way and blow it off. And come back the next day and continue on like everything is great. They deserve to be put out of business.:wtf:

On a happier note, I have to tell you how much you have inspired me. I've done work on my bike, and only got through it because of you. I would get my repair manual out, look for info on the web, and dig in. Sometimes I would really be scared about starting the project, but would think if you could do all the things you have done on the resto projects, I should be able to do things on a fairly new bike.
To date I have:
Removed the AIS permanantly
Installed aftermarket exhaust
Installed floor board mounted foot pegs
Relocated the helmet lock
Installed a light bar
Changed the front and rear tires (no small job on a shaft drive bike)
Changed oil and filter (without an ORK thank you)
Installed electrical outlet and mount for my GPS
Installed pull back risers
Installed lowers
Installed cruise lock
And added a windshield bag and tank bib
Sometimes things didn't go smoothly, and I was ready to give up, but would think of your accomplishments again, and get er done. So a big thanks for your sharing your projects, thus helping this 60 year old granny do her own wrenching :wootrock:
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/Condor50/DSC00665.jpg

[Queen]

Condor, that is soooo cool!!!

[Astir]

:thumbsup: Way to go Condor!

[ridingAK]

That is awesome, Condor! :wootrock:

[Luna Tique]

:thumbup: Turning your own wrencheshttp://lunatique.smugmug.com/Other/smilies/eboy/469651177_bTqW4-O.gif (http://lunatique.smugmug.com/Other/smilies/6394670_NAmsS#469651177_bTqW4) That is wonderful Condor:clapping:

[Xrayted]

Very cool, Condor. :D:

We ask lots of questions of people on different MC forums, especially the SOHC4 forum. Those guys help with any bike if they can. We have anywhere from total newbies to legendary guys who have set records at the Salt Flats on there. They keep us on our toes and help us keep momentum. :):

It was D&S Cycle in Aloha, OR that did that to us. :mad: One of our local buddies from the SOHC4 forum had them put on tires and one was backwards and not beaded to the rim, not balanced at all. He got a mile up the road and almost wrecked. He took it back and made them fix it. Again, they acted like it was no big deal, simple mistake anyone could make, etc. He won't go there again, either. He learned to do it himself too.

We used 3 tire spoons and a few pieces of wood to keep the rims and sprockets from getting damaged on the floor. :lol:

[Kitsune]

Good on ya, Condor!

Here she is as of this afternoon, with the new CB350G tank on, the seat redone a little, the headlight visor etc... :D

I'm hoping to put on some red pinstriping to 'pop' it just a little... eventually.:lol:

Riding the 350 feels like flying in all the ways riding the 650 doesn't. They're equally fun bikes, but each in their own unique sort of way. Very cool feel. :): It gets a lot of looks, too... I wonder if it could be mistaken for an old Brit bike before the Honda badging is visible? :lol:

Ordering a tach oil seal to fix up a little leak there... "a little here, a little there, and almost always, just a little more"
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/cbmickey/motorcycle/Photo0079.jpg

[Luna Tique]

She is a beauty Kit :thumbup:

[sweptwingnut]

DITTO! :thumbup:

[indianscout]

She is a beauty Kit :thumbup:


Here, here!! :clapping:By the way there will always be a "little bit more"........;):

[Queen]

She is a beauty Kit :thumbup:

Agreed. Fine piece of work Kit! :thumbsup:

[Astir]

:thumbup: A real beauty for sure!

[Xrayted]

and to think, this bike was going to be a ratty, dirty, run around kind of thing. No changes, just clean it a bit, replace the safety stuff, like cables... yeah, right! Now she has to worry about it getting stolen. :rofl: Btw, anyone know of a good lock/alarm for a bike that doesn't have disc brakes? My type of lock/alarm goes on my disc for the HD. I really like it but we need something different for Kit's bike. Ideas are appreciated.

[indianscout]

and to think, this bike was going to be a ratty, dirty, run around kind of thing. No changes, just clean it a bit, replace the safety stuff, like cables... yeah, right! :rofl:


I have heard that before.........:lol:

[FJRider]

WOW!!!!! She looks just great Kudos to you guys

[Xrayted]

So we went to Napa today to look for a new tach cable seal. (we have one ordered but got impatient) :D: They usually can find something for a temporary fix until we can get a correct part. Not today though. The guy behind the counter told us we may try D&S... then we exchanged stories. He and two others working behind the counter won't be going there anytime soon. They couldn't believe they had done that for a "simple" tire change. The word is spreading. :redface1:

[Astir]

:decisions: Spreading the word will keep riders safe from their stupidity. :thumbsup:

(ps - love NAPA! I am surprised they couldn't find anything. I have always had such great luck with NAPA.)

[Xrayted]

yeah us too. they thought they would have some but they didn't have them in stock. Their computers were down so they couldn't look if any of the other local ones had it either. we shall just wait for the part from honda.

sigh.

[FJRider]

I have heard that before.........:lol:


Now tell the truth IS... Heard that or said that before

[indianscout]

Now tell the truth IS... Heard that or said that before



Busted.........:redface1:



:lol:

[Kitsune]

ok... got in on some pinstripin' action. :lol:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4832010387_85c723dda8.jpg

Waiting on the red rim tape 'til the wheels get trued.

[indianscout]

ok... got in on some pinstripin' action. :lol:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4832010387_85c723dda8.jpg

Waiting on the red rim tape 'til the wheels get trued.



Oh-ya, that's the ticket!!!

[Condor]

Sweet! I just bought a truck. Could you come and put some pin stripes on it for me :):

[Luna Tique]

Does the red tape have reflective properties Kit?
It looks nice.:thumbup:

[kari-star]

it looks amazing Kit! you are seriously inspiring me. my partner has an old triumph in parts in our "shed" and now I'm thinking she needs a friend, and *I* need a rebuild bike too!

[KansasKawboy]

Dang girl thats looking good! :wootrock:

[Xrayted]

Yes, it's reflective. Just standing and looking at it in the daylight, it jumps out at you. No need for headlights to make it stand out. She also put in on the fenders, if you can't see that part so well.

I really like it too. :):

We are just waiting for the tach cable seal to come in so we can get it back out on the road. :snoopy: